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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Setup menu point <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">J </del>- I don't get blue color at 6 degrees==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Setup menu point <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">K </ins>- I don't get blue color at 6 degrees <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cyclic throw</ins>==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">getting </del>the 6° too early this <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">shows </del>that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">you may </del>not <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">use full </del>servo resolution (not <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">using </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">full throw)</del>. This can be <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">solved </del>by using longer <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">blade grip linkage arms</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">reducing </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">swashplate inner diameter (shorter </del>linkage <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">balls) or larger swashplate outer diameter </del>(<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">longer linkage balls</del>). <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Or simply by screwing </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">linkage balls </del>on the servo <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">horns </del>further <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in (but this will reduce </del>both <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cyclic and </del>collective <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">- </del>the cyclic<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/</del>collective <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ratio will not change)</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''Is it OK to leave it like this? What does this setting actually do?''<br /></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Anyhow</del>, the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">color is not a fixed value </del>that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">must to reach</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">If you get blue you have something similar to 80% usable servo throw. The further </del>you can <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">go </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">higher </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">value will be. So everything from blue upwards will give </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">good resolution and you won't feel any disadvantages</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">If using good</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">precise high class servos, strong and with fast speed you even can fly with only red LED without any noticeable difference. Also rotorblades (flybarless blades or </del>not<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">) can make a difference.</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><br /></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">On a 250 or 450 size heli you should try </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">get "dark blue" at exactly 6.0° </del>as <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">here servos normally are not so precise</del>.<br /></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">setting up the cyclic throw, you must/should always set exactly 6 degrees. The entire control loop is tuned to this value. If you set more or less, the predefined gain values, feedforward settings, etc., will no longer match. Of course, you can use a larger or smaller angle, but in that case you will most likely have to adjust parameters so the control loop does not oscillate and continues to operate properly.<br /></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''Key rule:''' Always set cyclic throw to 6° cyclic pitch during setup.<br /></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The color of the status LED is only informational and indicates how much of the available servo travel is being used.<br /></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The more servo travel is used, the better, because this allows more sensitive and precise control. For good system performance, it is important that the status LED lights "as blue as possible", meaning a large amount of servo travel is used to reach </ins>the 6° <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cyclic pitch. If the 6° cyclic pitch is reached </ins>too early<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins>this <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">indicates </ins>that not <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">all of the available </ins>servo <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">travel is being used. As a result, control precision suffers because part of the servo’s </ins>resolution <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is lost. <br /></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">With high-quality, precise and backlash-free servos, this may still work well even with limited travel </ins>(<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and Status LED </ins>not <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">blue at 6° cyclic pitch). However, especially on small helicopters of the 250 to 450 class, this is often not the case, because the servos are usually not as accurate there and the mechanics often have considerable play in the linkages. So it is mandatory we see at least a blue light at this setup step. In any case, we recommend to mechanically increase the available control travel to exclude any possible issues from </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">beginning</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><br /></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This can be <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">achieved, for example, </ins>by <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">increasing the distance of the linkage point on the blade grip </ins>using longer <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">balls</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">thus moving </ins>the linkage <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">point further away from the rotor head’s rotation axis </ins>(<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">feathering shaft</ins>). <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Alternatively, </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ball links </ins>on the servo <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">horn can simply be attached </ins>further <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">inward. But with </ins>both <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of these options, note that the available </ins>collective <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">pitch range is reduced. These measures therefore do not change </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ratio between </ins>cyclic <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and </ins>collective <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">pitch — both are reduced equally</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><br /></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">To change only the cyclic travel</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">shorter balls must be mounted on the inner ring of </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">swashplate. This moves the linkage point closer to the rotation axis so </ins>that a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cyclic tilt of the swashplate results in less movement at the blade grip</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Or, </ins>you can <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">extend </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">balls on the outer ring of </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">swashplate, causing </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">given servo movement to produce less tilt of the swashplate</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Of course</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">both options are often </ins>not <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">as easy </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">implement </ins>as <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">simply moving the linkage one hole further inward on the servo horn</ins>.<br /></div></td></tr>
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<p><b>New page</b></p><div>==Setup menu point J - I don't get blue color at 6 degrees==<br />
When getting the 6° too early this shows that you may not use full servo resolution (not using the full throw). This can be solved by using longer blade grip linkage arms, reducing the swashplate inner diameter (shorter linkage balls) or larger swashplate outer diameter (longer linkage balls). Or simply by screwing the linkage balls on the servo horns further in (but this will reduce both cyclic and collective - the cyclic/collective ratio will not change).<br />
Anyhow, the color is not a fixed value that is a must to reach. If you get blue you have something similar to 80% usable servo throw. The further you can go the higher the value will be. So everything from blue upwards will give a good resolution and you won't feel any disadvantages. If using good, precise high class servos, strong and with fast speed you even can fly with only red LED without any noticeable difference. Also rotorblades (flybarless blades or not) can make a difference.<br />
On a 250 or 450 size heli you should try to get "dark blue" at exactly 6.0° as here servos normally are not so precise.<br /><br />
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